Cycling in Sydney Australia
How do you handle it when you're a passenger and the driver is driving dangerously?
I bring this up because I've recently taken two taxi rides and the drivers were driving like idiots, cutting in, accelerating unnecessarily, driving to fast etc.
In the long past I've told a taxi driver to stop and let us out because he was driving like a mad man, I paid up and got out and he did a burn out leaving. My girlfriend was bit pissed off at me, with it being the middle of the winter, night and nowhere. So that didn't work out so well and I've never had the guts/stupidity to do it since then and I'd prefer to hear other peoples approaches that have worked, so I can copy!
This obviously applies to all drivers including taxi, bus, friends etc.
IIRC if you read the rules that are stick onto somewhere on or near the dash, it says that you, as a passenger, have the right to request the driver not drive like an idiot (well, that is a synopsis anyway).
I think a polite request is fine. If it is not adhered to call the number and make a complaint.
You did the right thing by getting out, i've done the same to a taxi driver, had a suitcase and it was10PM. Just walked to another busy road and hailed another cab.
The advanced driving instructor out at Eastern Creek advises the same thing, if a driver of a car you are in is being reckless just get out and call someone else to pick you up.
Ask the driver to turn the A/C on to max hot or cold (depending on the ambient temperature) and the radio to JJJ on full volume - as is your right (point to the sign on the dashboard).
When he (invariably male) complains, tell him you'll strike a deal - he starts driving civilly and you'll agree to turn down the heat & volume.
Failing that, lodge a complaint (even better make the call while in the cab as Si alludes to), and remember, you might be cold waiting for another cab, but no one ever sits in a cab that has been wrapped around a lampost, with an airbag wound to the face and their knees trapped under the dash appreciating how warm it is as the heater box leaks radiator fluid down their legs.
I've had this happen to me as a taxi passenger. I said: "If you continue to drive like this I will refuse to pay my fair and I will call the police".
He suddenly changed his behaviour but didn't talk to me for the rest of the journey. No loss.
I also have said: "Slow down. I'm in a hurry."
+1. Getting out is all very well but doesn't get you to where you want to be. I had a mini-cab driver do this to me in London once (with my pregnant wife in the car too!), I told him that if he continued to drive like an idiot I would refuse to pay him at the end and he would be welcome to call the police to join the discussion. He calmed down. Obviously if he had continued to drive like an idiot I would have been forced to ask him to stop and let us out, but few taxi drivers are keen on giving you a free ride.
What I thought this thread was going to ask is what to do if it is one of your "friends" doing said driving, which is a trickier subject and one I've come up against a couple of times.
Agree, get out.
If the driver expects to be paid then you can ask for the police to attend if you want to.
I avoid using taxis as much as possible for this reason and many more.
If you really need to be driven and no chauffeur driven mercedes benz is available (=mybus1/2/3) then either book a hire car or try cars-to-go.
To pay or not was one of the issues I was hoping would get covered - thanks MG.
So no ones had issues with bus drivers?
I suppose I should add to this I recently had a go at my brother for not having a go at a bus driver who was sitting on a cyclist tail. And that last night my badly strapped on bag managed to get wedged between the child seat and the rear wheel locking up my rear wheel when I was doing ~50, yeah my fault (but could of been due to the chain jumping off after hitting a pot hole or something that was not so clearly my fault) and a flat wheel spot is what I got but could of been a lot worse as the driver behind wasn't sitting on my tail, which I find highly unusual ?
This topic sounds like the kind of thing which is fodder for "The Form Guide" on 702 ABC Sydney Afternoons with James Valentine, every Wednesday after 2pm.
James gets listeners to pose and answer questions of etiquette which have arisen in their day-to-day existence.
Might be tricky if you are at work but you could try ringing 1300 222 702 tomorrow arvo and see what's the general populace's take on the issue.
You could then compare with the comments here to see whether we are all reasonable people. (ABC listeners, of course, are the creme-de-la-creme of talkback participants in this burg.)
Yep, I've waded into the odd taxi driver. More often in Melbourne. As an ex cabbie, I have no qualms at all.
I ask them politely, then tell them firmly and then pull out my phone and ring the number.
At that point, they usually kick you out and you then have the right to refuse to pay the fare.
Very entertaining if you are having a bad day.
I had one occasion at Melbourne airport where the cab I was allocated to recognised me and refused to take the fare. The cab rank attendant made him go around again. Possibly wasting about an hour of his time.
You are kind of recognisable... ;-)
Probably best to wait until near your destination to pull out the phone, then?