I would like to use Sydney Cyclist to highlight the illogical and selfish Quarry Road Firetrail 'Safety Management Plan' which has succeeded in shutting down all public access to the vital and historical bushland link of Hornsby to Dural.
This trail closure is an utter PR disaster for both the Berowra National Park and legal gun ownership in New South Wales. Both North Shore Regional Target Shooting Association, and BVNP have literally had years to consult with affected local communities and trail users, with plenty of time to build two new detour trails around their supposed rifle range 'danger zone.' Yet they did nothing, except what was easiest- deny all public access. Indeed, my phone call to the 0417 201 606 number on the sign at the gate regarding 'doing the right thing' and asking for authorised access to the Quarry Road firetrail for a social bicycle ride, yielded a sanctimonious answer of "No access to any bicycles ever," by the respondent. When I asked if there was an alternate route available, I was told to carry my bicycle up and down the steep sided, unrideable Pogson's Trig Trail.
"Lack of funding'" is always the excuse given to us for there being no new trails, or the poor maintenance and rotting, outdated markings of existing bush trails and paths which are a disgrace to the vast, and exquisite National Parks of Sydney. Had either organisation simply asked, they would have had an army of passionate local volunteers to help them build two new detour trails. I note, however, that plenty of funds have been found for the purchase and installation of four big new silver padlocked gates to shut down the Quarry Road trail, accessorised by lots of glossy new 'keep out' and 'danger' signs...
This lockout is a remarkable example of exceptionally poor management, exhibiting a callous disregard of all those who, for decades, have run, walked or cycled along the Quarry Road Firetrail. All those who have appreciated its breathtaking natural beauty, used its heritage bridge to cross Berowra Creek easily and safely, or the hundreds of offroad cyclists who have used it as a safe training route or alternative cycle commuting link between Hornsby and Dural instead of the busy, dangerous Galston Gorge Road, which is now the only bridge across Berowra Creek. 
While other famous cities of the world have built and continue to build extensive networks of groomed walking paths and cycling trails for the enjoyment their citizens (thereby reaping major health, transport and tourism benefits) those whom we have in charge of open spaces and recreation in our city exhibit very little political will to do much for active living. Unless it is the contribution to arts and culture of lockout laws, building yet another billion dollar toll road, or bending over backwards to accommodate guns and revolting cathedrals of gambling. 
So we thank BVNP, North Shore Regional Target Shooting Association and the posse of 'safety experts' no doubt consulted over the years to implement their bulletproof plan to keep us all safe and sedentary. The truth is, you are only interested in keeping yourselves safe, using your authority to justify locking the local community & visitors out of a key asset of the Berowra Valley National Park, whilst making a unique contribution towards Sydney becoming a more undesirable place to live in or visit, than it already is.

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Yes, the sequencing of the entire process for the rail corridor in Newcastle has been criminal. But then what would one expect of the LNP coalition? They'll sell off anything. Just look at the land registry sale as a good example of a bad deal. The annual profit from the registry over 20 years is greater than their lease price over 35 years! They are incompetent financial managers.

Back to the issue at hand, the legal challenges to closing of the Newcastle corridor without an act of parliament failed because it was slightly shortened, not closed. Such challenges to whole rail corridors being sold off without an act of parliament would almost certainly be successful.

Although as the LNP have a majority with the Shooters and Fishers, they could just close such corridors now and be done with it.

"Such challenges to whole rail corridors being sold off without an act of parliament would almost certainly be successful."

True. However if they sell off all of the rail corridors to one of the government "corporations" like HDC, it means that there will be no need for them to go to parliament to close and flog off any rail corridors in future. This could allow them to gift large tracts of prime real estate to party benefactors, or just bits and pieces of a corridor to an adjacent land owner which cut the corridor making it unusable for future transport needs. Think rail trails not being viable because of bits and pieces being handed over to farmers or National Party sympathisers.

Methinks a remedy lies with a good look at the contours and analysis of possible trajectories.

It's perhaps worth working out whether the alignment of the Berowra Valley Quarry trail is protected from possible projectiles by terrain. By that I mean elevated arcs of flight, not just straight line rifle shots. It seems to me that the risk, if it exists at all, is where a rifle is aimed well high of the target. So high that the round might go over the butts in other words.

Shots fired way up into the air usually come down relatively slowly, not in a ballistic way. So don't worry so much about those.

If there is a chance that the existing track might receive a round with ballistic speed then it might be possible to put an informal singletrack in slightly further downhill. Regardless of permission.

shooting above the berm

Some explanation here about aiming a bit above the berm, and how far rounds go. Additionally, there's discussion of short-stop ammunition which is meant to prevent bullets travelling too far downrange.

Mentioned earlier in the discussion, this illustrates how high the ...

So I am sure an expert can work out where on the ground it's possible that bullets with dangerous energy could possibly land. And, more usefully to us, where not.

The other thing is there are hours of operation, outside those hours should be safe.

The other thing is there are hours of operation, outside those hours should be safe.

Exactly. Night riding, in particular should be fine (unless the shooting range has floodlights, but they should be VERY obvious, even if you're in the next valley)

There's a pistol range next door to a mate's work premises, most of the activity there actually takes place after dark...probably safer during daylight hours.

Seem to remember this problem was brought up by hikers some years ago, would think it was a story read in the smh.

Seems bullets falling back to the ground are still dangerous

Terminal Velocity etc

They are. In this case I don't think we are concerned about shots fired really high into the air, it's not a place of lunatic celebrations. Although shots aimed really high can come down all over the place, and they do reach a terminal velocity they aren't ballistic projectiles. So they are unlikely, and of lower energy too so while still dangerous you would have to be incredibly unlucky to be killed by one there.

More a case of shots inadvertently fired a little above the berms, so doing the maths on whatever minimum angle you need to miss the berm up to say 20 degrees elevation ought to offer a sensible basis for working out risky areas to avoid. Obviously if a singletrack existed just a few metres down slope terrain would be in the way of such a bullet.

Those kind of shots are noted in the same article and they state that they will still be traveling a little faster than terminal velocity

The point is they *are* dangerous, but compared to a ballistic speed not so much and at the same time the likelihood of receiving one of those in the noggin is piddling.

What's the situation with the Maroubra shooting range?  Are we allowed to sail on the ocean behind it?


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