Compared to Perth and Melbourne cycling infrastructure in Sydney is virtually nonexistant

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/spoke-in-the-wheels-sydney-s-bi...

I've just ridden three days in each city covering about 150km in each. Do Sydney cyclists realise just how extensive the networks are in Melbourne and Perth? They are more like European Cities. But the anomaly of one bike Australian city being so pathetic when others are good is very unlike Europe. Take any country there and infrastructure is fairly consistent. Indeed, consistently good. As the years go by, Sydney just gets more full of cars. Cycling is for the brave. Meanwhile, other states have plugged away for decades and cycling is a genuine option for ordinary people. RMS in NSW needs a clean out.

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Pretty sad,

".."When we looked at the people [cycling] who are dying most on the roads – Middle-Aged Men In Lycra (MAMILs) – it didn't surprise us because they're the only ones left riding on the road," Ms Wallace said..."

But its all going to be good after 2056 !!!

Yes.  I was in Mbne last week and stayed around the Carlton/Fitzroy area.  That statistic where 1 in 5 women ride a bike in NSW was borne out down there.  1 Bikes everywhere.  All types at all times of day and night.  Mix up of 40,50 and 60 Km/h roads. 2  Lots of females riding bikes.  Lots.  All sorts of ages.  Those green lanes at the intersections were adhered to by the motor vehicles and the bikes.  I was shocked.  Of course that was the inner city and it still can be better, but they are as Noelbike says, steadily working towards.

As for 2056.  I'll be 95 then, so well and truly, likely dead.  It is (insert profanity) just more of the same old crap.  The news article summed it really well.

Perth is a great cycling city. Perhaps because the trains are so damn expensive, it is either drive, ride, or walk for most people. Fortunately there is decent vehicular infrastructure here that drivers don't race down back streets to try to beat gridlocked arteries. They also have train lines and cycle paths that follow the freeways. Only downside is that "normal" bikes are not allowed on peak hour trains. Hence my recent foray into folding bikes.

But yeah, Sydney is really an alpha release of a city and the others have looked upon how Sydney does things, and does the opposite.

Congestion charging for cars AND jack up the price of train tickets- yes, could work for cycling.

great article on congestion pricing by Gittins today in SMH.

I only know Sydney so it seems normal to me.  What is different about other cities?   Are we talking about shared paths?  If so then I’ll stick with Sydney. 

Andrew I think you'd be pinching yourself, checking you are awake. In both Melbourne and Perth you can actually ride from A to B without being at risk. That includes not at risk from peds and dogs on paths. In Perth lots of paths even say no peds. Actually not only in Perth. In other big cities eg Mandurah, the infrastructure is basically everywhere.. In Melbourne you can ride on most CBD streets on a bike lane. There are lots of bikes. In Sydney you have 1 of the N-S streets, or 2 if you count the bits of Castlereagh. And on the Sydney cross streets you have half of King St. On the other half, from George to Elizabeth, you are quite exposed. Why does Elizabeth St not have a bike lane on each side all the way from Green Square to Circular Quay? It is indefensible. The traffic snarl on Elizabeth screams failure. Way too many vehicles. Other world cities are not like this.

Other cities are just way safer than Sydney and it seems to be entirely the fault of successive NSW state governments. In particular, one of the departments.

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