Cycling in Sydney Australia
Hills Shire Times reports on cycleways
The Hills Shire Times (local paper) reported this week that the hills shire have 132.38km of off road cycleways and, get this, 70.766km of on road cycleways.
Do they have their definition of cycleway screwed?
I've looked at their map and ride some of the off road cycleways. These are not cycleways, they are shared paths and at about 80cm wide of black undulating crap hardly even a path.
Others are nice paths and wide but all are shared, shared with pedestrians on the wrong side of the path, meandering along with their off leash dogs or worse with 5m leads strung across paths, shared with parked cars.
Would a serious cycle infrastucture radiate out from ares of high use, say shopping centers and business parks? These don't.
The on road cycleways are just car park facilities, the ones I've been on don't even have the small worn painted bike on them, no signs, nothing.
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Permalink Reply by Will Wassell on -
I didn’t really want to give voice to what i was actually thinking John, its a family site after all :)
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Permalink Reply by Paul on -
70.76km of on-road cycleways in the Hills District?
Gee, when I wrote to the RTA a couple of years ago, they told me that in the entire state of NSW there was only 76km of on road cycleways! So, it comes as a surprise to find that 70.766 of those are in the hils district!
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Permalink Reply by Alex on -
I wonder how many km's there are of road in the Hills District.
They need a good dose of perspective....
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Permalink Reply by MadameBike on -
Must be easy to count cycleways as bits of road with bike symbols painted on them, I reckon.
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Permalink Reply by robflyte on -
John, cycle ways, are they made to allow cycles only? Since these are all for pedestrians, parked cars and garbage bins are they really cycle ways or shared paths?
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Permalink Reply by Paul on
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I am calling their 70km of on-road cycleways as total bollocks. I'd like to see the km by km breakdown of where these on-road cycleways are.
As I said, when I asked the RTA for the breakdown for the entire state (as at June 2009), I was given this:
I suspect that the bulk of the so-called "on-road cycleways" are in fact "Road shoulders".
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Permalink Reply by Peter H on -
I suspect that the bulk of the so-called "on-road cycleways" are in fact "Road shoulders".
I agree, and they are probably nothing more than a bicycle stencil under the parked cars or in the door zone.
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Permalink Reply by Amy Kwong on -
I did a short ride a few weeks ago in the hills district. The quality of roads have quite put me off riding there again.
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Permalink Reply by Martin on
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I am amazed that someone took the trouble to measure the length of all the on-road cycle ways to the nearest metre, or 0.001%.
How much was this person paid for that job? Did he/she use a tape measure or perhaps a metre stick (my bike odometer only displays to the nearest 10 metres)? Was the tape measure or metre stick properly calibrated?
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Permalink Reply by MadameBike on
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Very humorous Martin but think you should label all of questions "rhetorical" so as not to confuse the newcomers to this site. :-)
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