Cycling in Sydney Australia
"50% reduction in traffic"... snorts into cup of tea.
They really are clueless about the real effects of building lots of large (toll) roads, aren't they?
They're not clueless of what the real effects are, they just don't want to go on public record stating that building all of these toll roads will result in large sums of money entering into their bank accounts/pockets
It's possible that for every bit of car capacity they add with the toll road they take it away on the parallel surface roads - ideally by converting it into separated cycleways. I'd support such a thing.
It would be tremendously unpopular though as it would be seen as "forcing" people to use the toll road.
Looking back at the original thread discussion, the path layout through the goods yard is pretty close to what we came up with. I'd hoped for a separated path rather than a shared one, but the routing is good I think. Will take some of Lilyfield Rd out of the equation and we get the link under Vic Rd.
What concerns me most is that WestConnex will only update the cycle path along Victoria Rd for a few hundred meters at either end of the Iron Cove Link, not along the whole Rozelle route. This makes a mockery of the idea that putting the traffic underground will improve surface facilities. As we all know, the current Vic Rd shared path is nothing better than some white paint infrastructure with RMS slalom poles to negotiate. This will be focus of my feedback.
Re "a possible future link to Hawthorne Canal through the railway cutting under Balmain Rd and Norton St"...aspirational at best I think Bob, put in there to placard the Greenway proponents. It would have been so much easier to do it before the light rail extension went in.
What do others think about the plans?
Link under Victoria road and through the yard is great. Feels like our feedback trickled upwards for once. Its a removal of a bike handling issue, extremely inefficient elevation change, traffic volume bottleneck and limiter on distance for casual cyclists. Even if the pleasant water colour open space concept picture for rozelle yard doesn't convey 80 decibels of nearby traffic roar.
They really need to bite the bullet and build the link to hawthorne canal. it would finally mean one approach to the city has a proper integrated cyclepath with appropriate grades for casual riders.
And this is worth a listen but you may need to go for a good walk or run after you do. With the way they go about building roads now I just can’t recommend going for bike outing. Foot paths still seem safe until they start to toll them
WestConnex: good debt or bad debt?
Hi Bob - in response to my feedback, they have published a hi res version (actually very hi res at 157MB). You can now zoom in.
One thing that really hits me is the scale of this monster. There are car 16 lanes heading off to the Anzac bridge on the right of the map p44. The quantity of individual tunnels under Rozelle is staggering (14). But I digress, must keep focused on the active transport outcomes.
Do we know what measure will be put in place for bicycles whilst construction is underway?
I've compiled a list:
For the Rozelle yards, I'd expect that Lilyfield Rd would be mainly unaffected. The Crescent path is likely to be a bit of a mess for a while when they do the tunneling there. Speaking for the Iron Cove Link, the doc says "During construction, Clubb, Toelle and Callan streets will be converted to cul-de-sacs. Pedestrian and cycle access along Victoria Road will be diverted via Manning Street and connect with the westbound shared path along Victoria Road at the end of Byrnes Street." That's a pretty crap diversion however you could mix it with the buses in their red lane (as many cyclists do now), or use the existing shared path on the eastern side of Vic Rd.