It's become the talk of the energy industry that the US love affair with energy may be given a boost with the additional production of gas and oils from increasingly successful (if environmentally controversial) "fracking" to get at shale layers to release their reserves. 

Australia is dipping into this technology as well despite well publicised "lock the gate" campaigns by farmers and those worried about water supply contamination.

A number of analysts say the USA's fortunes will fundamentally shift the energy balance in the world and potentially extend the life of fossil fuels for some time beyond the current peak oil scenarios.  America for one may close in on "energy independence" while Saudi Arabia is tipped to be importing fossil fuels by 2030.  And analysts are only now beginning to consider what will be accessed under an "ice free" Arctic.

Given that Peak Oil and the rising price of oil has been the one inescapable factor to motivate change in energy and transport policies, is a surge in fossil fuel supplies and more stable prices actually going to be unwelcome news for cycling and cyclists, more sustainable transport and those (apparently few) concerned about the impact of climate change? 

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"50 million climate refugees by 2010" according to the UN in 2005.

didn't happen... the UN forgetteried that report.

African Famines

Famines kill people across Africa primarily due to corruption and war.

Farmer Suicides in India

People commit suicide. Sad, but true.

Let's quickly check the available stats:

- wiki says farmer suicide rate in india was 12.9/100000 in 2001, and I quote 

Activists and scholars have offered a number of conflicting reasons for farmer suicides, such as monsoon failure, high debt burdens, government policies, public mental health, personal issues and family problems.[4][5][6] There are also accusation of states manipulating the data on farmer suicides.[7]

- Australian rates: NSW 18/100000, QLD 37/100000 (ABC Fact Check)

Doesn't look like farmer suicides in India is really any different to Australia.

Bangladesh Floods

80% of Bangladesh is a floodplain. this page suggests they've become less common over the last 50 years, with the worst event in recorded history in 1998.

Refugees -there were about 65 million in 2015. Conflicts are being exacerbated by climate change, like Syria, Darfur etc

African droughts - the weather is affecting ability to grow crops - prolonged more severe droughts are increasing with time.

Indian farmers - probably not great to compare to Australian ones. They're being hit with the same pressures.

Bangladesh - The graph in your link shows that before 1970 the floods were pretty dependable, and only covered a steady 30% of the country. Since then they've become erratic. The maximum area covered has steadily increased. 74 looks like about 40%, 88 is about 60%, 98 looks about 70%. What part of severe flooding for 70% of the country is good news for agriculture is beyond me. 

If you think you know more than the UN as you indicate, and maybe the IPCC, NASA, chief scientist Alan Finkel etc etc clearly debating here is a waste of time, so I won't be tracking your reply.

If you think you know more than the UN as you indicate

hey - I'm just pointing out that in 2005 the UN predicted 50M climate refugees by 2010. It didn't happen, and they disappeared that particularly awkward prediction.

They don't believe themselves.

Australian suicide rates (ALL, not just farmers) are about 10.5/100k. ie: the same as Bangladeshi farmers.

If you don't want to deal in facts, and would rather be led by authority, its no skin off my nose.

5C warming will result in the carbon trapped in the sediments on the ocean floor being released which will add another 5C, ie 10C total.

This has happened once before on earth and happened naturally.  The end result was 90% of species on Earth became extinct

There was not mass extinction in the Paleocene–Eocene Thermal Maximum.  Quite the opposite in many cases.

The cause is also a point of some debate.

Probably not anthropogenic, unlike current situation.


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