... I know just that title will get a lot of you into this thread! :-)

And in fact a few days ago I was going to post this thread asking, "are they really all that good?"

Cos I'm eyeing up some future touring, and am concerned that my current tourer, being based around the frame of a repurposed 1980s-era chrome moly racing frame, size XXXL, isn't quite up to the task, as it flaps like a fish when panniered up, esp if I have to be out of the saddle up a hill, or the like.

I'd had a look on the Surly website and found that they are now making a 64-cm LHT, with a 61cm top tube, the dimensions of my custom built racer. Course you can't order FROM Surly but they list the chaps at CBD in the city as importers, so I swung past there this morning.

"Ah yes," they said, "A shipment arrives in early April, there is a 64 in there, do you want to put down a deposit?"

Hell to the yeah! And only after all this banter and me looking like a keen cashed-up puppy did I actually get around to asking how much it was ... and they still gave me a $50 discount.

So, new frame, swap all old stuff onto new frame, off we go.

But just for all you beard-strokers out there .... there will be NO BAA-CONS. Will use my flat bar.

PS There was also an option for disc brakes. CBD bloke sang their praises for touring, esp for long wearing, low maintenance, ability to keep riding with an untrued wheel, long descents without dangerous overheating, etc. I'd have been more interested if I wasn't swapping over my regular wheelset.

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Clean-shaven folk favour baa-cons, too.

I would go the discs and a new wheelset. You know where your old wheels have been and who has ridden on them. They would probably welcome a good rest.

And besides, you really don't want to be rebuilding them mid-tour, something I can say with certainty, having done it twice on multi-month o/s trips.

I second the disc brakes. Seriously, they are so much better.

Ah crap, seriously?

My front wheel on my tourer is pretty ordinary but I had the back one built last year, it's only done one tour ...

It's only money...

You could sell the old wheels on that weird Al Yankovic-bay, anyway, or on SC-bay, or...

Seriously.......i would not buy a touring bike without disc brakes. It makes a HUGE difference to braking power.

I have to clarify that I have a disc brake at the front and a centre pull brake at the back.

 

http://www.viventebikes.com/main/page_technical_technical_brakes.html

 

 

Thanks for that link. I'd not heard of Vivente. I like their honest approach.

All right all right.

Order swapped, we are now going the disco breaks.

Donations to the Big Mike New Wheelset Benevolent Fund gratefully accepted.

I hedged my bets and went disc on the front for my tourer

...there will be NO BAA-CONS.

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Sur(e)ly there is always room for BAA-BAA-CONS?

PS There was also an option for disc brakes. CBD bloke sang their praises for touring, esp for long wearing, low maintenance, ability to keep riding with an untrued wheel, long descents without dangerous overheating, etc.

I would stay away from disks for a loaded touring bike. Apart from the calipers getting in the way of mounting pannier racks and hanging panniers on them, here's a couple more reasons why:

http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/02/14/road-bike-disc-brakes-are-comin...

http://tandemgeek.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/hot-disc-brake-news-or-n...

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