Just a heads up that NSW's finest were back in the park this morning fining hordes of riders for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. Every rider must completely stop.

One whole bunch fined, a second bunch was split with the front half being fined.

I will try to find out exactly which stop sign from Strava/Facebook posts but thought it might be of interest on here.

Business as usual for NSW.

JM

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Applying demerit points for fines occurring from non motorised vehicles is directly against the law.

The RMS don't know the legislation which governs them.

Did Gay sneak it through with the fine increases, which didn't require legislative change IIRC?

No, it is an error, either by the officer in putting the wrong code in or the system lacked a separate code for bicycles and has since been corrected.

Anyone who has had points allocated to their license for a cycling offense needs to get them reversed.

Had someone lodged a complaint to BNSW and asks for it to be changed into give way sign??????

Do nothing then, it won`t happens?

Any current BNSW members still here, why not lodge a complaint to BNSW of doing nothing but only interests in memberships fees and stuffs you all????

Tell them that you will get your membership lapses and will not renew until it had been resolved and asks for the exorbitant fines to be reduced and then that membership might be re-instated. If they want the memberships, then they`d bloody well fix the effer up........

I`ve let my BNSW membership lapsed and haven`t renewed from 2013 due to my dissatisfactions to them.

What a BullshitNSW is it?????

ps,sorry to hear my rant.

What seems to have happened is that there are codes for offenses and there is different codes for an offense committed on a bicycle to the same offense committed on a bicycle.  RTA's system looks up the code and applies the points to the license in accordance with the code.  With the offense with failing to stop at a stop sign either the Police are applying the wrong code or the system is wrong in not having a separate code for cyclists.

Anyone who has had points applied to their license should talk to cycling NSW to see what is happening with the LACC tickets

I heard second hand that a few guys DID lose points.

When I was done for red light on a bicycle I produced my cycling licence (the cop was shocked they exist) and I was fined but lost NO points. 

So none of this points business makes sense to me.

JM

So this morning a bicycle rider stopped at a RED traffic light in SOP BUT he stopped just over the white line.

Lucky there just HAPPENED to be local over zealous NSW Police on duty - I mean what are the odds? $450 fine issued. 

NSW could abolish taxes and duties if they EVER enforced that for motorists in the city, where it is actually a problem.

Something is not right with NSW Police or at least the few who are chasing bike riders around the park super early in the mornings... this is getting very very silly. 

JM

Low hanging fruit, zero danger of being attacked with a 1500kg weapon, zero risk, ability to do a power trip to make their day. What's there not to like about the job? 

Nevermind the cycling casualty rate is not getting anyway safer, as drivers keep killing and maiming cyclists unchecked by the NSW police force

I'd contest that  one

I was pulled over 10 days ago on a Sunday morning turning left towards Bobbin Head after crossing the railway line off the Pacific Highway. The stop sign is just after the railway line at the T junction where Belmont Parade meets Ku Ring Gai Chase Road and KRGC Rd has the right of way. Both directions on Belmont Parade have a stop sign but if you are coming from the railway bridge and turning left there is nothing to give way to as any KRGC Rd traffic is in the other lane. The other side of Belmont Parade is directly in front so I could see that it was clear for at least 200m, I could also see that the other side of KRGC Rd was also clear.

Stopping makes sense if you are going straight on but not if you are going left and can see that there is no oncoming traffic. The policeman was positioned around the corner to catch people turning left. He waved me to stop and asked for my licence so I gave him my CA licence which probably pissed him off a bit. He asked if I had my driving licence or knew the number, I said no I didn't and that I knew that I could not lose points on my drivers licence while riding a bike. He confirmed that this was correct. He said that I had come "flying through" the junction and I explained how I could see that the road was clear. He took down all my details but did not issue an on the spot fine so I thought I had escaped until the $330 fine arrived in the post yesterday.

I counted the stop lines on my commute this morning and rolled over 5 of them. At none of them was there any reason to come to a dead stop but at least I did need to give way. At the place I was fined I needed to do neither.

And you had right of way to any oncoming driver turning right, so there would seem to be zero reason for the fine, except they could. 

That sucks Drastic - Just keep in mind $330 is nothing compared to your life/limbs.

Always be very careful before coming to a complete stop at any stop/give way or traffic light I've had many a car with no intention of stopping. The fine is cheaper than death/injury.

JM

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