Atheist Cyclists

Comment by Freewheelin' Franklin on July 15, 2010 at 4:06pm

" I think that "atheist" is a term that we do not need, in the same way that we don't need a word for someone who rejects astrology. We simply do not call people "non-astrologers." All we need are words like "reason" and "evidence" and "common sense" and "bullshit" to put astrologers in their place, and so it could be with religion.
"
Sam Harris

Comment by Si on July 15, 2010 at 4:10pm

I refuse to join a group called "bright" cyclists.

Comment by Freewheelin' Franklin on July 15, 2010 at 4:15pm

in response Si & quoting from the same article

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/1702

"We should not call ourselves "atheists." We should not call ourselves "secularists." We should not call ourselves "humanists," or "secular humanists," or "naturalists," or "skeptics," or "anti-theists," or "rationalists," or "freethinkers," or "brights." We should not call ourselves anything. We should go under the radar—for the rest of our lives. And while there, we should be decent, responsible people who destroy bad ideas wherever we find them."

but yeah - bright cyclist would mean you'd have to start wearing Fluoro
go stealth

Comment by Si on July 15, 2010 at 4:50pm

But, but, but, but... I more often than not wear fluro when riding! And have ayups.

Comment by Freewheelin' Franklin on July 15, 2010 at 4:52pm

maybe you should start another group...
gotta love those ayups

Comment by Si on July 15, 2010 at 5:44pm

You got me thinking about this.

The only thing all Christian sects have in common is a belief in Jesus/Christ (and therefore god).

The only thing I know I have in common with people who call themselves "humanists," or "secular humanists," or "naturalists," or "skeptics," or "anti-theists," or "rationalists," or "freethinkers," or "brights" is a lack of belief in their being a god. Therefore, while certainly not a label that goes any where near explaining my beliefs in their entirety (in fact, it only explains one belief), atheist is a fitting label whether I actually like being called it or not as much as Christian would be to someone who believes in Jesus.

Comment by Freewheelin' Franklin on July 21, 2010 at 7:00pm

Suggestions for group avatar

double helix - for obvious reasons

Douglas Adams Babelfish from the 80's tv series

Adams points out that the Babel Fish could not possibly have developed naturally, and therefore proves the existence of God as its creator. However, certain people say this proves the nonexistence of god as proof denies faith, and without faith, god is nothing. "'my, that was easy', says man, and goes on to prove that black is white, and gets killed on the next zebra crossing.

my vote = babelfish.
notsure how it will looks at avatar size...

Comment by Freewheelin' Franklin on July 21, 2010 at 7:08pm

Oh Oh one more and thats it I promise...

dawkins flying spagetti monster

Comment by Freewheelin' Franklin on July 21, 2010 at 7:18pm

sorry FSM wascreated in 2005 by Oregon State physics graduate Bobby Henderson, it was originally intended as a satirical protest against the decision by the Kansas State Board of Education to permit the teaching of intelligent design as an alternative to evolution in public schools.

not dawkins... thats just where I read about his noodlyness

anyway none of this is very bike related... sorry

Comment by Freewheelin' Franklin on July 21, 2010 at 7:27pm

Ok - sorry - can't help myself - dammned wikipedia

If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time

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