Cycling in Sydney Australia
A quick message to let you know the NSW online permanent system is operational.
Not all rides are available as yet, this will take a little time.
Follow Online permanents link found lower right of screen.
select a permanent
enter required information.
Print out brevet
I have not gone through this process yet, who ever rides one first can correct the above and add to what is done next.
This is a great leap forward making Permanents greatly more accessible to members and significantly reducing administration. I might have misunderstood but I thought Bec & Howard said that the on-line notification to the Ride Organiser when the rider registers was all the notice that was required, I will confirm,
While all NSW Permanents will be on the ePermanent list as soon as they get them organised (some need a little more information so that the brevet can be generated) the current list available is
I believe Bhanu and Mark have done an ePermanent recently, perhaps they have some feedback.
While scheduled rides are probably better not everyone has free time on weekends so having easy to administer permanents is very good for many people
The system is still in a trial mode. Check with the RO that a ride will be OK to ride on the particular day selected. There is no automatic checking of the calendar or conditions.
Link for the permanent rules is broken.
Is the idea that, there will still be a notice period required before doing a permanent?
as an RO am I supposed to be "on call" at least once per 24 hours to say yes or no to a ride?
If that is the case I might call into action the bonuses that the Vic ROs get as standard. Little wonder they have so many permanents and rides.
atm there is still the problem of having a permanent ridden on the day of a calendar ride. Someone needs to check this.
I tried the system last night, ordered myself a little 50 for Saturday morning. But who knew Bec and Howard had a ride on, a 50km ride included!
Being the RO of the ride I wanted to do, I can't cancel it.
a great feature to add, the volunteer writing the code needs a bit of time :o)
The Rules say,
A Rider must not ride a Permanent in the same local area and on the same day as:
a) an Audax Australia calendared event of the same nominal distance;
So what is the "same local area"? For convenience the NSW Permanents web page groups "Sydney" rides together but is it reasonable to expect a rider say in the Hills district to ride 60+ kms (round trip) to a Hornsby start for a 50 or drive (evil) or spend 4+ hours on public transport or is it more reasonable to allow them to just spend 15 minutes riding to a Parramatta start on the same day?
Is it even "reasonable" to exclude other Hornsby starts of the same distance on the same day if the rider has a work shift that prevents them from making the scheduled start at 6am but allows them to do a permanent 4 hours later. "Flexible" working patterns are more common and will become even more so.
I agree that scheduled rides are better for the club health but doing any club ride is also better than doing no club ride even if on the same day etc. I don't really think this is a problem and if it was we would have to ask is the "problem" something wrong with the scheduled ride?
The IT resource has a lot of demands on their time eg I spent 6 hours yesterday entering BRMs into the French ACP system and then into the Audax Oz results system, sending emails to ROs who have not reported results for rides almost 30 days ago (ACP requires entry of results within 30 days or cancellation of the ride) and sending Brevet Numbers and Stickers to Regional Brevet Secretaries.......
So lets get the maximum benefit for members (riders & ROs) from the minimum effort and leave the really fancy AI bits up to the biological intelligence maybe