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Sick of fools yelling "where's your helmet"? Can't understand why a safe mode of transport like cycling has been singled out for mandatory helmet wearing? Want to ride with the breeze in your hair? This is your group.

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Comment by Omar@Go! Alliance on August 3, 2012 at 8:26pm
Ahhh, and therein lies my inspiration to create Go! Alliance. The current advocacy models have fallen far short of the need to re-frame both the issues and how we go about driving change.
Comment by Alan Todd on August 3, 2012 at 9:07pm

I feel totally belittled and alienated when, with the full support of our state cycling bodies, I am stopped by the police and fined $156  FOR RIDING A BICYCLE LIKE THEY DO EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD.  Can I be any clearer than that?  

As I said in a previous post, pigs will fly and I will be dead before we get the mythical "package of measures" Omar talks about.  Helmet laws are unjust, immoral, and ineffective even at achieving their own stated goals.  Sign the petition at http://www.freestylecyclists.org/ and lets work to rid Australia of this superstitious legislation.   

Comment by St Etienne on August 3, 2012 at 9:19pm
I really like the concept of the Go! Alliance. In fact I brought it up during a conversation the other night when I was spruiking my utopian vision of equal mobility rights. (Or whatever I was raving on about - I'd had a couple of beers.)
Comment by St Etienne on August 3, 2012 at 9:25pm
What you said Dasher and Tony. I have heaps and heaps to say on this subject but I don't want to crash SC with a 50,000 word essay. Heh heh!
Comment by Omar@Go! Alliance on August 3, 2012 at 11:57pm

Alan, Nothing wrong with signing petitions but we need a whole lot more support among many more people for whom helmets aren't the main issue but in fact a symptom of a planning priority mindset stuck in the 1960's. 

As long as we frame this as a fringe issue (even among some or many cyclists) then I don't see it getting high on any legislative agenda.  I applaud your passion and persistence, but even you appear to agree that the current approach has been getting us nowhere and in fact may soon be leading us into disorganised retreat.

Comment by stephen on August 4, 2012 at 3:57am

Hi Omar the helmet laws taken at face value say seem a minor issue or so some would like us to believe but there is allot more to it than that.

http://www.lobv.org/2006/08/04/15-reasons-to-oppose-the-helmet-law/

You will notice I am with the LDP relatively new political party it is by having many people with similar type issues working together against intrusive laws that  many small issues can combine together to become an effective political force to promote change.

With compulsory voting Australians tend to be quite apathetic about the political process but you notice the link i gave shows in the US that people can form powerful lobby groups "the league of voting cyclists" is the type of thing we can do and endorse parties or candidates who support change.

Comment by Omar@Go! Alliance on August 4, 2012 at 9:39am
"The LDP regards the right to own firearms for sport, hunting, collecting and self-defence as fundamental to a free society, irrespective of how many choose to do so."

Stephen, frankly, this and most of your party's policies frighten me and reminds me why I choose not to live in the USA.

This approach illustrates why others have voiced concern about making a polical party issue out of this as you then buy-into all kinds of things that may be counter to ones values and splinter the community even further.

This is not a nanny state issue in my view, it is about creating liveable spaces and better choices that also can improve health and our environment. Grabbing it as a single issue misses the point for many and ensures this remains a divisive issue here and in the greater community.
Comment by Ride2Wk on August 5, 2012 at 9:36am

I still think it's ridiculous we expect children to ride their bikes on the road once they turn 13 years old. We do not allow them to drive a car on the road until they are 16 so why do we force them onto the road in any other vehicle?

The recommended Australia Road Rules DO allow footpath cycling for any age group. Several stateslike Qld have followed that and DO allow footpath cycling by anyone. The problem is that NSW & Vic are too scared to upset the pedestrians like Scrubby Harry who can't see that it's cars that kill both of us and bikes & peds should be working together instead of against each other.

Comment by David Ryan on August 5, 2012 at 11:35am
Strikes me that peak bodies must advocate together. Representatives from bikes, peds, disabled, elderly and young people need a non adversarial mind set.
Perhaps this already is happening. I was encouraged by this
quote from The Australian Pedestrian Charter (Harry Scrubby)...
"Pedestrian advocacy groups should develop alliances with peak cycling and public transport users groups and with representatives of the more vulnerable categories of pedestrian, such as those with disabilities and older persons."
Comment by Omar@Go! Alliance on August 5, 2012 at 12:27pm

Working on it David...  go-alliance.net... hopefully more soon...

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