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Sick of fools yelling "where's your helmet"? Can't understand why a safe mode of transport like cycling has been singled out for mandatory helmet wearing? Want to ride with the breeze in your hair? This is your group.

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Comment by Ride2Wk on August 1, 2012 at 9:01pm

St E - how much of Seville's transformation is drivern by the poor economy? Remember that Copenhagen and Holland started their road to bicycle heaven during the 70's oil crisis.

The think holding Australia back is probably partly our good economy & high $A keeping 4WDs & petrol prices lower & more affordable than they might otherwise have been.

Comment by Paul Martin on August 2, 2012 at 10:17am

Some rather silly commentary from a  champion, Brad Wiggins: 

http://news.sky.com/story/967839/cyclist-killed-after-being-hit-by-...

Not only was a bicycle helmet irrelevent in this poor soul's death (his body was ripped apart) but Wiggins implies that cycling is nothing more than 'a sport'. 

It's that sort of position that has got us into this mess and keeps us there. Places like the UK & USA are not far behind us but at least adults have some choice on hat usage.

Comment by Sir Si d'Eaudouce on August 2, 2012 at 10:33am

Wiggins was also quoted in many news outlets as saying:

"I haven't lived in London for 10 to 15 years now and it's got a lot busier since I was riding a bike as a kid round here, and I got knocked off several times.

"But I think things are improving to a degree – there are organisations out there who are attempting to make the roads safer for both parties. But at the end of the day we've all got to co-exist on the roads. Cyclists are not ever going to go away as much as drivers moan, and as much as cyclists maybe moan about certain drivers they are never going to go away, so there's got to be a bit of give and take."

 

Quoting the Murdoch press, shame on you Paul.

Comment by Sir Si d'Eaudouce on August 2, 2012 at 10:34am

.. forgot linkies... just search on some of the sentences above and you will find 100s of links.

Comment by Paul Martin on August 2, 2012 at 11:49am

Si,

It's rubbish journalism, sure, but I'm referring to Wiggins' specific comments which are *in quotes* in that article. If he's been misquoted or misrepresented then he should take that up with the journalist.

"Cycling is a dangerous sport. I know there are a lot of people out there who ride bikes who abide by everything, the laws the lights and things.

"But there are a lot of cyclists as well who don't help themselves, riding along with no helmets on, iPods on, this, that and the other on those Bojo things.

"There's got to be laws that protect both parties. Things like legalising helmets, making them the law to wear. They shouldn't be riding along with phones and iPods on, shouldn't be riding without lights."

 

If these comments are accurate, they are out of line in relation to this incident. End of.

Comment by Paul Martin on August 2, 2012 at 12:34pm

Si, I'm not sure if you got that quote from this link but I suspect you did. You forgot to copy and paste the last sentence...

Wiggins said he would like to see the introduction of a law making it compulsory to wear cycling helmets.

 

As I said before, this is irrelevant to this death. His head was just fine... Wiggins should stick to what he does best.

Comment by Neil Alexander on August 2, 2012 at 12:53pm

Fully agree, Doc, and I said something similar in the comment I left on that story. I suppose Wiggo was put on the spot by some idiot journo -- was it Mike Tomalaris? Oh, no it wasn't -- and was trying to sound learned but just ending up sounding lurnd dumb.

Comment by Sir Si d'Eaudouce on August 2, 2012 at 1:06pm

@Paul. Why should he take it up? You're the one with the issue /justsayin.

I suspect Wiggins was asked {a,} general question{,s} like "Is cycling in London dangerous?" or "Do you think cyclists in London do dangerous things?". The quotes read far more like answers to those kind of questions than "How do you think the cyclist just run over by the bus could have avoided/lessened the impact of the accident?"

I also suspect he was asked "Is cycling a dangerous sport?".

The quotes I quoted certainly are not sport specific.

Comment by St Etienne on August 2, 2012 at 7:51pm

Wiggins has form on this subject:

Wiggins, who grew up in London, is no fan of the bicycle public rental scheme introduced by mayor Boris Johnson. "[It's] very dangerous," he said. "Most of the people that ride around London don't wear helmets and can't even ride a bike, which just creates more danger on the roads and obviously drivers get frustrated with them, people riding along with iPods on these Boris Bikes with no helmets.

"I think it's a disaster waiting to happen, personally, but what do I know?"

Not much it seems.

Really, cycling safety is a lot more complex than telling people off for wearing iPods or assuming people who aren't ITT champions don't know how to handle a bike. Journalists should probably understand that just because someone is a professional road cyclist does not mean they're an expert on bike policy.

Mark Cavendish was at least on the right track when he talked about laws that would protect cyclists.

Comment by St Etienne on August 2, 2012 at 8:03pm

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