Pyrmont Bridge Road Working Group

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Pyrmont Bridge Road Working Group

Group for improving Pyrmont Bridge Road for cyclists. This road links Inner West suburbs like Stanmore, Petersham and Leichhardt with Pyrmont and the City, and carries a steady stream of commuter cyclists but little in the way of cycling infrastructure.

Location: Inner West Sydney
Members: 15
Latest Activity: Feb 16, 2018

Background

[Note added in August 2017: Sad to say, the result of the February meeting has been RMS deciding to do nothing. After no reply I rang them and they said PB Rd is a "low priority" and they thought the plan we presented didnt do enough to improve safety, so better to do nothing. Go figure! In other news, Inner West Council has received a grant to connect Annandale with PB Rd via a bike link from Albion St, so maybe that will get RMS to take some interest. This link is still in concept stage, no definite route yet, but original plans were for a path across Johnstons Ck from Nelson St, into the industrial maze behind PB Rd. A better link in my book would be down Parramatta Rd footpath (widened as part of Parramatta Rd renewal project) from Nelson St. ]

[Note added in March 2017: a meeting was held with RMS, City of Sydney and Bike Leichhardt in February 2017, after a call by Bike Leichhardt for an update on RMS and CoS intentions for Pyrmont Bridge Rd as part of Urban Growth plans for relocation of the Fishmarket and other changes to Blackwattle Bay and Pyrmont. City of Sydney strongly put to RMS that they should have remarked the road to cater for cyclists when they repaved it in 2016. RMS actually agreed to relook at the road markings and see if some provision could be made for cyclists, using as a basis a plan put together by CoS traffic engineer Justin Murphy. They even thought that there were some funds left in their budget for such works. We left the meeting feeling quite hopeful, but as yet no positive news.]

See photos of Pyrmont Bridge Rd on a Google Photos album

Forum discussion on left hook incidents at Wentworth Park Road. http://www.sydneycyclist.com/forum/topics/anyone-been-nearly-left-hooked-here

Some facts and figures will be posted here, when obtained, such as traffic volumes, cycle counts, anything else relevant.

Number one fact is that it is an RMS controlled road, but footpaths are under the control of Leichhardt Council and City of Sydney Council. Some sections are recognized as parts of bike routes. The section between Junction St and Booth St is part of a route from Annandale to Haymarket via Booth St and St Johns Rd. There is a bike route directional sign near Booth St for westbound cyclists. There is a Bicycles Excepted sign for the right turn into Ross St from the Bus Lane.

The speed limit is 60 Km/h, which is too high for the road these days. It used to be the main way into the City via Pyrmont Bridge but now is not a through route.

The road is wide by Sydney standards, up to 15 m in sections, with four lanes. in the section through Glebe it is narrower but only 2 lanes of traffic, so lane widths are generous, except where an extra turning lane is marked. Clearway restrictions apply in peak hours Monday to Friday. Weekend and out of peak parking causes some squeeze points for cyclists.

There have been resident campaigns to close the road near Taylor St, to reduce traffic through Glebe.

The road surface is very bumpy where Ausgrid or other authorities have laid cables in a trench along the road and have not repaired the surface flush, although they say they will come back eventually and fix properly.

Short PyrmontBridgeRd.doc submission to RMS in May, 2013.

[Note added in March 2017: the road has been repaved by RMS and is a lot smoother. Some of the road is different looking. They took out the refuge near Wooley St and put in a conventional pedestrian crossing, introducing a bit of a squeeze due to a kerb extension. They also put in a standard wide refuge at Cross St, introducing a real squeeze for west bound cyclists.]

Discussion Forum

Latest developmemts

Started by Bob Moore. Last reply by Bob Moore Jan 22, 2018. 20 Replies

Leichhardt Council at their Traffic Cttee today  agreed to raise PB Rd with RMS, and seek a meeting or at least some response from them, to the idea of improvements for cyclists. They also said they…Continue

Usage and bicycle counts

Started by Bob Moore. Last reply by Bob Moore Apr 10, 2013. 2 Replies

CoS bike counts at Booth St and at Wattle St give the numbers of cyclists in morning peak hour period to be in the range of 125 to 250. Source is fig. 4.77 in the State Govts Transport Masterplan. In…Continue

Tags: pyrmont bridge Rd, PB Rd

Ideas, Problems and Solutions

Started by Bob Moore. Last reply by Bob Moore Oct 26, 2012. 6 Replies

OK, we know some of the problem points and sections, now how do we improve PB Rd for commuter cyclists?My starting list is something like this:1. Lower speed limit to 50. Possibly 40 near the…Continue

Lane widths and squeeze points

Started by Bob Moore Oct 21, 2012. 0 Replies

Posting some measured lane widths at crucial points where cyclists might get squeezed or otherwise experience problems. Please add any more points or sections where you have experienced problems.I…Continue

Tags: Pyrmont Bridge Road

Comment Wall

Comment by Bob Moore on February 13, 2017 at 7:33pm
Having another go, IWBC and CoS are meeting with RMS and TfNSW reps on 25Feb to look at PB Rd again.

Anyone had any recent experiences on PB Rd?

The only changes I've seen are a wider pedestrian refuge at Cross St, causing a squeeze point for westbound cyclists, and a bypass through the road closure at Colbourne St, to get up to St Johns Rd.
Comment by Bob Moore on March 29, 2017 at 8:55pm
Positive meeting with COS and RMS. See updated Group main page.
Comment by Brendan Howard on August 4, 2017 at 10:07am

What's the deal with the intersection of Pyrmont Bridge Rd and Parramatta Rd?

If heading to the City or Glebe from Stanmore/Enmore, and coming out of Denison St, crossing Parramatta Rd at the lights, it forces cyclists up onto the footpath at the 7-11 and then having to deal with crossing to the correct side of the road. It's either wait again for the pedestrian lights or deal with oncoming traffic.

Is there enough cyclist traffic passing through this intersection that it should warrant a bike signal in the traffic lights for cyclists coming out of Denison St?

Comment by Bruce Robertson on August 4, 2017 at 1:37pm

Yes it's terrible! I usually wait for the pedestrian lights on Parramatta Rd and again on PBR to get to the right side of the road. This highly inefficient crossing is made much worse by the traffic island being so small and not having a ramp so you have to deal with a kerb as well.

I doubt there's enough cyclist traffic at the moment for a bike lantern although if was an easy junction to get through probably a lot more people would use it. That, and fixing up the traffic island!

Comment by Bob Moore on August 4, 2017 at 5:54pm

Yep, its definitely a catch22 sort of thing.

The old  Leichhardt Bike plan had a bi-di path along the SE side of PB Rd from Parramatta Rd to Mallet St (end of their territory), so that would solve your problem at least up to Mallet St, but no sign of that being put in.

I favour bike lanes on both sides of the road, as that seems more normal and it is quite wide there. Maybe a shared path up to mallet St too, so you and cyclists from Denison St  could cross back to the correct side up there. Its quite a wide footpath so id sneak along there now, risking a fine of course.

IWC got some money from the Parramatta Rd Revitalization funds recently  for a link from Annandale to PB Rd, via Albion St, and maybe a bridge across Johnstons Ck into the industrial area behind PB Rd  but they say they havent started work on a design for ít. They should include a bike crossing  from Denison St too.

Anyway, do write to IWC, pointing out the problem and requesting they do a holistic solution to getting to PB Rd from both Annandale and Stanmore/Camperdown. Email is council@innerwest.nsw.gov.au. Ken Welsh is the transport planner.

RMS have now said bike facilities on PB Rd are a low priority (despite the meeting we had in Feb, where they appeared to be keener), but with the development expected on parramatta Rd and at the Fishmarket there will be pressure I hope to put in bike lanes and/ or bi-dis. You could hound them a bit too.

Comment by Brendan Howard on August 4, 2017 at 6:04pm

Yeah normally I do continue along the footpath toward Mallet St as you describe and usually use one of the service station driveways to get back onto the road and cross it when there is a break in the traffic, as do most of the other cyclists i see getting through the intersection. but at the moment the problem is that the service station is closed for some construction work and the workers park their trucks and vehicles on the footpath, which a) blocks it for anyone from walking or cycling past, and b) makes it impossible to see any oncoming traffic.

Comment by Bob Moore on February 16, 2018 at 7:40pm

Video on Twitter of some close passes heading west along Wentworth Park frontage

https://mobile.twitter.com/mpwoodhead/status/963707667112804352/vid...

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