I just want to make my position very clear - its NOT OK to run red lights. I was driving my truck through Brighton le Sands this morning around 7.45am. I passed a group of about 10 cyclists heading south on the 3 lane main road and I came to a stop at the red light in the main shopping strip. I watched in my rear view mirror as the bunch approached the red light and then proceeded to ride - all 10 of them - straight through it.

10 humans on bicycles is about the same spacial size as 2 Station Wagons.

Do these guys/girls consider what might result if they suddenly had to stop for a unsuspecting pedestrian?

To me its blatant disrespect for a system that is set in place to make the roads safer for everyone, and when I see cyclists run red lights regularly I can really understand non-cyclists anger.

Try to give me just one good reason why any let alone 10 cyclists have the right to run a red light - and I'll tell you its bullshit.

If we want respect on the roads we cyclists need to start acting responsibly.

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Comment by Andrew on July 4, 2009 at 2:33pm
We can ride down the left hand sides of motorists legally, does that bring respect? We can demand a whole lane if required, does that bring respect.

And like I respect your belief on red lights I do believe that cyclists should be able to go thru them if it is safe to do so. We should be able to treat them as a give way sign, like cyclists can in many other places in the world.
Comment by Duncan on July 4, 2009 at 3:02pm
Andrew,

by all means, agitate to get the laws changed if you like, but you can't change the fact that it is currently Illegal to go through a red, which is what these cyclists did.

I'm with Fixit.. it is a blatent disregard of the law, and garners nothing but disrespect from the average motorist.

If I'd been there, I would have yelled out to them, reminding them of the law.
Comment by Bill on July 4, 2009 at 3:03pm
Hey, why not let trucks treat Red lights as give way signs? Truck drivers are professionals and they can be trusted not to do anything foolish. Red lights are for idiots in 4WDs, not for cool people like cyclists or truckies.
Comment by Ma Dame Vélo on July 4, 2009 at 3:48pm
I agree with Fixit.
Comment by Da Gargoyle on July 4, 2009 at 4:14pm
It is one of a number of issues where all cyclists cop bad press from the bad behaviour of a few, (Well I guess I have seen more than a few). Any red light situation is a disaster waiting to happen and the offender risks other peoples health as well as his own, No excuses for running one, no reason to change the law.
Comment by Judy on July 4, 2009 at 6:07pm
I totally agree with Fixit. People running red lights are not only a danger to themselves and pedestrians, but also to other cyclists. I have had 2 near misses in the last few weeks with other cyclists in the city in the dark hours of the morning. Both times I was riding through an intersection with the green light, when these idiots have ridden straight through their red light and almost cleaned me up. Interestingly, neither of them had any lights on their bikes, and one of them had wasn't wearing a helmet. It is probably only a matter of time before a car or truck slams into them.
Comment by cafard à deux roues on July 4, 2009 at 6:52pm
I agree with Fixit, though with one exception. I think it should be legal for cyclists to make a left turn through a red light after stopping, if safe (as is allowed for any vehicles at certain intersections, indicated by appropriate signage). Because it is functionally equivalent to the perfectly legal act of walking your bike diagonally across the footpath and placing it in the gutter beside the cross street.
Comment by noelbike on July 4, 2009 at 7:51pm
I agree with Fixit.
Comment by Paul S on July 4, 2009 at 9:10pm
Some car drivers get cross with cyclists because we hold them up and I don't believe any amount of stopping at red lights will change that. I also add that on my commute car drivers are almost all courteous, considerate and respectful to me.

Individuals make decisions whether or not to obey the law all the time in society, in my opinion it becomes toxic when they go on about why they should not be held accountable for their actions. ie speeding motorists.
Comment by Andrew on July 4, 2009 at 9:46pm
"People running red lights are not only a danger to themselves and pedestrians" bollocks, that was nothing more than a general sweeping statement. When I go thru a red light it is done in a totally safe manner with no one at risk, the law needs to be reviewed and changed. In over 20+ years riding the only accidents I have had, when a truck ran me off the road, when a ped stepped in front of me (and no not at the lights) and when a car came straight out of a driveway and did not look.

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