Hi

I am a reporter for the Sydney Morning Herald,

I'm doing a story on the recent move by Sydney Harbour Foreshore Authority to put a ranger over Pyrmont Bridge in peak hour commuting,

If anyone uses the bridge or knows anyone who does and would like to comment on the move,

please contact me at on 0425297577 asap,

Regards,

Clare Barnes.

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Comment by MaccaBike on June 23, 2010 at 1:19pm
Pyrmont Bridge is a dangerous chaotic mess. I've tried to ascertain why the Sydney Harbour Foreshore Authority won't put bike lanes on the bridge but have never received a satisfactory answer. The rangers are more likely to cause an accident than prevent one. They don't actually enforce the 10kmh speed limit, which pedestrian runners also break. The organisation seemingly likes being the fly in the ointment spoiling a proper link-up of the City of Sydney's cycle paths from the city to the Anzac Bridge
Comment by MaccaBike on June 23, 2010 at 1:41pm
Trying to keep this positive....As a cyclist, having separated cyle lanes on the bridge would greatly reduce the risk of accidents. As someone who occasionally walks over the bridge too, I would want cycle lanes for exactly the same reason. On such a wide bridge, dedicated cycle lanes would take up a very small amount of space, leaving plenty for walking commuters and tourists. For me, dedicated cycle lanes would say, "yes, come and use our wonderful bridge" as opposed to rangers who seem to be saying "your use of our bridge needs policing, you are doing the wrong thing".
Comment by Llewster on June 23, 2010 at 2:14pm
http://www.sydneycyclist.com/forum/topics/new-10kph-speed-signs-on?...

Here is a discussion on this issue from a while ago. I think if we came up with signs indicating that during peak hour tourists must move to either side of the bridge would be beneficial.

For me though the biggest problem is the walkway from King St to Pyrmont Bridge - your looking at 900 cyclists in 3 hrs in the morning - and with the increased infrastructure/cycleways on Pyrmont Bridge Rd - Union St - this will encourage more cyclists - maybe double or triple or more - this little section of path can't possibly cope and needs to be widened.
Comment by Struggler on June 23, 2010 at 2:46pm
I reckon the only real gain in putting a ranger on duty is to be seen to be doing something. I understand there have been many incidents, although like Kylie, I have never seen one. The ranger stands in a prominent position and asks every cyclist to slow down. But the cyclists were already doing a speed that they considered safe - right? So are they really going to change their speed? Are there going to be any less incidents as a result? I don't think so. There is a basic mismatch between the objectives of tourists and commuters. They don't mix well. We all want to be nice to tourists, and free from incidents. Putting the ranger there makes no substantial difference. More expensive solutions are appropriate.
Comment by Dan on June 23, 2010 at 6:07pm
I think that bike lanes on Pyrmont Bridge would be a disaster. It would give cyclists a sense of entitlement, and encourage them to go faster, but peds would still drift all over the lanes, making accidents and conflict more likely.

As cyclists, we have an obligation to pedestrians to ride in such a way that does not put them at risk. We (rightly) demand that behaviour of motorists towards us, and when we are the ones operating the higher-speed, heavier vehicles in a space shared with others who are more vulnerable we have to do the same. (Some of the comments on here make me cringe; replace 'peds' with 'cyclists' and 'cyclist' with 'motorists' and see how they read...)

Personally, I really like the rangers on the bridge. I see that as a result cyclists are generally behaving better than previously and not going so fast (although the growth in cyclist numbers also helps with this as there are more cyclists doing the right thing and setting an example - this phenomenon was discussed elsewhere re the effect more cyclists have on red light running).

I always make a point of saying a cheery hello to the rangers, and most of them give me a greeting back, often with a 'thank you'. I ride slowly and carefully across, probably at around the 10kph limit, although I slow down to near walking pace when there are a lot of peds i am riding through.

And riding like that adds perhaps at most 1 or 2 minutes to my journey time, makes it less stressful, and gives me the chance to say hello to some guys doing what must be a pretty boring job.

So yes, very happy to have rangers enforcing safe riding in areas shared with peds. Now what I'd really like is more rangers enforcing safe driving in areas shared with bikes....
Comment by Michael S. (Boxhead) on June 23, 2010 at 10:37pm
Well said Dan. I agree with all you wrote.
I also have thought that bike lanes would be a disaster, I ride slowly and try to be extremely cautious around peds and give the rangers a friendly g'day when I see them.
Comment by Doddsy on June 23, 2010 at 10:54pm
If they wanted to put a seperated cycleway on Pyrmont bridge they'd have to ban pedestrians from the king street exit. Pedestrians would have to take market st and cyclists king st.

Not sure why we can't just share space like most cultures do, pedestrians need to learn to consider others and leave space and cyclists need to learn how to flick the "i'm not riding in heavy 50kph traffic anymore" switch.

Oh thats right Sydney and Australia is full of xenophobic inconsiderate people.
Sorry silly me.
Comment by Doddsy on June 23, 2010 at 10:56pm
Excuse me but what accidents have happened on Pyrmont bridge over the years?
Why is Pyrmont bridge considered so dangerous if there have been little or no accidents over the years?
Comment by Kim on June 24, 2010 at 10:00am
I have always found the rangers to be really nice. They smile and say hi to me. I have no problems with them.
Comment by SteveBr on June 24, 2010 at 10:30am
I like the rangers.

Although I think the bridge has been a good example of harmony between pedestrians and bikes, I have seen a marked improvement in pedestrian awareness of bikes. Less deliberate walking across in front of me, less derogatory remarks.

I agree that there are stupid cyclists who ride at dangerous speeds, just as there are stupid pedestrians - mainly iZombies - that need to be reminded of the rights of other bridge users.

The rangers seem to have taken a soft approach and I appreciate that.

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